Moray Lobbans

Moray Lobbans (R-FT75068)

Urquhart main tree         William & Bathia tree              Virginia Lobbans                  Logan  Line


Distribution map of main NE Scotland Lobban family branches. Moray Lobbans in blue. Click to enlarge.


Moray Lobban branches as determined by Y-DNA, including the William & Bathia line most recently connected.

Y-700 results show that the Logan Line and Urquhart Lobbans have a common ancestor, probably born about 1525; this group can be called the Moray Lobbans (R-FT75068).  Within 2–3 generations a new branch formed (R-BY212835), leading to the main Urquhart tree and the Virginia Lobbans, whose connection precedes the written records.  We recently found that the William & Bathia line, formerly assumed to be part of the Rothiemay Area Lobbans, is close to the Urquhart tree, with a common ancestor (BY175033) relatively recently, about 1740 but not connected in the records. The earliest ancestor in the Urquhart line is James Loban b. 1650, m. Janet Hay.  The Virginia Lobbans go back to a John Lobban, b. Peterhead. The U.S. Logan line has been traced back to John Loban (1609–1661), married Margaret Watt in Aberdeen in 1634 and their children, named as Logans, were born in the 1640s.

We describe the four branches separately below. (The horizontal style of tree diagram is explained on the Rothiemay Area Lobbans page, which was the first of these analyses.) In addition, we have inferred on the basis of the family distribution map, that one of the Miramichi Lobban families connects to this tree, probably as a grandson of John 1685 = Margaret Man. As of May 2020, Syd’s hypothesis is that is a missing son of their son Alexander (1713–1774) and his second wife, Margaret Leslie. This is indicated by the asterisk on the chart, and the Miramichi tree shown separately below. A readable full-size pdf version of the base tree image without annotations is here.

Urquhart Line

Mapped tree of Urquart Lobbns branch. Diagram by Chris Lobban generated from family tree by Syd Lobban. Probable connection of Miramichi Lobbans at asterisk, as of May 2020 hypothesis.

Two main lines have descendants into the 20th Century: Alexander 1779 = Anne Falconer and Benjamin 1796 = Ann Gillies. Five groups can be recognized at the turn of the 20th Century, as follows:

John 1804 = Mary McHardy. Descendants of their son Robert Lobban (1846-1918) m. Elizabeth Bremner (photo below) include two emigrants to Australia, and our tree master Sydney Lobban.  John Lobban (1878–1961) went to Queensland, Thomas Lobban (1882–1943) to Western Australia. A son of their son John — James Lobban (1852–1930)– migrated to Tyneside, England. Helen Stephen had a son by an Alexander Ross, then married Alexander Lobban, and her son by Ross adopted the name Lobban (see NPEs).

Shepherd Robert Lobban (1846–1918) and wife Elizabeth Bremner, probably taken about 1910 at Thriepland, Boyndie, Banffshire. Photo courtesy of Syd Lobban.

Alexander 1810 = Christian Taylor

Robert 1815 = Jean Grant

James 1838 = Jane Taylor. Two sons of Alexander Lobban (1878– ) and Mary Ann McBain were killed in WW2.  Autobiographical notes of Gillies McDonald Lobban (1892–1972) were published in the Transactions of the Gaelic Society of Inverness (v. 55, 1986–1988) as the “Gillies Lobban Manuscript.”  [Excerpt here.] Gillies’ brother James (1873–1949) fought in Africa in the 1890s….

William Douglas 1842, who spelled his name Loban, moved to London and married Maud Mary Browne; this line has no further Loban generations.

Helen Lobban (1837– ) = James Simpson is mentioned on the Emigrated to USA page.


Thomas Loban branch in the Miramichi, Canada. Data from Ancestry trees, compiled and charted by Chris S Lobban.

Thomas Loban’s branch separates into two groups, one from each of his wives. I must point out here, however, that I compiled this tree from hints on, especially from the work of Debbie Stack, and may have corrupted it by adding to it.  The research is complicated both because different members of Thomas’ family used Lobban or Loban, and because there is  another Lobban branch in the Miramichi, from a different founder for whom we have not even a hint of his ancestry (see Emigrants to Canada page).

“William and Bathia” tree

This tree  follows descendants of William Lobban (1655– , one of Andrew’s five grandchildren) & Elspet George’s son John Lobban (b. Quoir Mayen in Rothiemay, 1679), married Kathrin Sim and after her death Beatrix Simpson.

Family of John Lobban (1679–1738)

Four branches reach the 9th generation, two in each of two higher groups.  The two higher groups are from sons of John Lobban (abt. 1710–bef. 1753), m. Jean McHattie: Alexander 1730 = Elspet Simpson and James 1742 = Anne Sandison. The four 9th-gen. groups, in the order shown on the chart are as follows:

Alexander 1776 = Eliz. Donaldson. Not clear that there were any descendants beyond the 9th gen.

Charles 1777 = 3 wives. John Lobban (1834–1929), m. Isabella Castle(s), emigrated to Ontario, Canada (details).

John 1764 = Jean Ross. The tree is named for William Lobban (1822–1898), m. Bathia Garden, 9th generation in this group. Five of their sons emigrated Canada but one soon returned to Scotland; James, John, Alex, and Charles remained (see Emigrants to Canada). William’s brother and Kenneth’s 2nd cousin, John Lobban (1824–1892), m. Margaret Gaudie, emigrated to Victoria, Australia in 1839 (see Emigrants to Australia and John Lobbans of Naracoorte). William’s brother James Lobban (1830– ), married Margaret Melvin and two of their grandsons emigrated to Canada in 1910 [James Lobban (1883–1967) and George Lobban (1889-1966)] (see Emigrants to Canada). A third grandson, Robert Lobban (1891–1917) fell in World War I (WW1).

Alexander 1770 = Barbara Barnett. James Lobban (b. 1790, Cullen), m. Margaret S. McTavish, whose son Archibald Lobban (b. 1817, Deskford), m. Elizabeth Morrison, ended up in Preston, England, and son Kenneth Lobban (1818–1895), m. Jane McFeteridge, emigrated to Yackandandah, VIC, Australia (see Emigrants to Australia). Archibald was in the British Army and two of his children were born at Mediterranean postings – Corfu, Greece and Gibraltar – and in Ireland (see Emigrants to England).

Virginia Lobbans

See Lobbans of Virginia page.  I have constructed a provisional family tree from the trees that Stephanie Falls and I built on and hints from other trees. I am hoping that someone will send me an authoritative tree for all the descendants of John Lobban (1734–1822) (i.e., with the documentation checked). I think that the tree shown here is close enough to the truth for the structure to be reliable, and I will make revisions when and if need be. The chart below is followed by a brief synopsis of the five major branches that were present at the 5th generation. The full-size base diagram as a pdf is here.

Descendants of John Lobban of Virginia.

Samuel 1805 = Susan Martin. Samuel Lobban (1805– ) was born in  Nelson County, Virginia where he married and had two boys before migrating to Missouri about 1834, where their had several more children. The continuing line of descendants is from their son William H. Lobban (1829–1907), and one of his sons,  Stonewall Jackson (“Jack”) Lobban (1867–1939).

John Garth 1795 = Jane Ramsey. John Garth Lobban (1795–1847) had three wives, but only the descendants of Jane Ramsey are still present in the 5th generation. His great grandson Gabriel Alexander Lobban (1839–1926) settled in Missouri. The business tycoon and automobile designer  Errett Lobban Cord (1894–1974) was Gabriel’s grandson.

John Gilmer Lobban & son Floyd G. Source: Thomas Dickson: The Rise and Fall of Alderson, West Virginia

John Gilmer 1834 = Sally Alderson. John Gilmer Lobban (1834–1909) organized a company of soldiers in his native Nelson County, Virginia, at the outbreak of the Civil War. He served with distinction as Captain until he was captured in the battle of Cedar Creek on 19 Oct 1864. He moved to Alderson, West Virginia, and married Sally Ann Alderson. Their son Floyd Gilmer Lobban (1869–1937) started the Lobban Funeral Home in Alderson, which has been carried on to the present day by successive generations.

George Washington 1826 = Paulina Fitzpatrick. George Washington Lobban (1826–1891) and his descendants stayed in and around Nelson County, Virginia.

Henry Clay 1857 = Aurelia Allen. This is the only surviving branch from the original settler and his second wife, Elizabeth Copland. Henry James Lobban (1798–1869)  moved from Albemarle Co., Virginia to Missouri about  1836. His son, Henry Clay Lobban (1857–1892), born in Silvercreek TWP, Randolph County, Missouri, moved to Ellis County, Texas, where he married Aurelia Beatrice Allen. They had three sons, including Charles Phillip Lobban (1890–1951), who died in Colorado City, Texas; William Birch Lobban (1879–1959), who moved to an area on the border of Wyoming and South Dakota; and James Thomas Lobban (1885-1958), who died in Wichita Falls, Texas.


Logan Line

US Logan Line showing founder (emigrant) Col. George Logan and earliest known ancestor John Loban of Hiltoun, Glass. Dataset courtesy of Stephanie Logan Falls. Chart and analysis by Chris S. Lobban.

Full-size tree without annotations here. The earliest known ancestor is John Loban, (b. about 1609 and died between 1650 and 1661), m. Margaret Watt. Their name changed in Aberdeen as the children’s baptisms were recorded. Only one of their boys left heirs, so far as we know: Patrick Logan, (b. before 1637 and died between 18 May 1671 and 20 Sep. 1674), m. Helen Anderson. Again only one of their sons left heirs, George Logan (1669–bef. 1720), m. Frances Dearsley; he emigrated to Charleston in the South Carolina Colony about 1693, is considered the founder of this branch. He had a short marriage to Martha Wainwright but they had no children. Their son, George Logan Jr. (1695–1764) is the most recent common ancestor for the all the modern descendants. The first, very unequal split is between George Jr.’s two sons, William Logan (1727–1797), who begat almost all the descendants through their one son Dr. George Logan (1750–1793)–who married Honoria Christiansdetter Muldrup, of Cornish and Norwegian ancestry–and John Logan (1729– ), whose descendants were few but continued beyond the last (9th) generation shown here.

William 1727 was “a patriot who suffered long imprisonment and his house and property were destroyed by Charles Cornwallis when Benjamin Lincoln surrendered Charleston” (source: Daughters of the American Revolution, Lineage Book of the Charter Members of the DAR vol. 043).  [On May 11 1780, the British began firing upon Charleston with heated shells, resulting in several fires, and Charleston’s civilian authorities at last urged Lincoln to surrender to the British, regardless of the terms. (source)]

Eight branches are evident in the 9th generation in three groups, as follows:

(1) Descendants of William Logan (1776–1854) and his two wives, Mary Webb (m. 1798) and Martha Webb (m. 1819) (the two women were first cousins):

William Daniel Logan (1803–1837 ) m. Mary Ann Young, died in January before the birth of his last son, John Stoney Logan (1837–1838) in March. They had three other children, all sons, of whom Daniel Webb Logan (1835–1906) and William Young Logan (1833–1880) left descendants.  Two of Daniel’s sons were born in Alabama, and perhaps the family moved there; birthplaces of the other children, and death places of Daniel and his wife are unknown.  William and his wife died in New Orleans and all their children were born there.

George Christian Logan (1810–1848) m. Rose Isabel Turner had three sons, of whom two died in New Orleans. Roswell Turner Logan (1836–1906) and his family stayed in Charleston.

Edward Charles (“Ned”) Logan (1823–1896) m. Mary Legare.

(2) Descendants of Dr. George Logan (1778–1861), m. Margaret White Polk and Anna Catherine Turner:
People in these branches were mostly in Louisiana (New Orleans and vicinity) at the 9th generation. Even though the doctor died in New Orleans, all his children were born in Charleston, and both his wives died there (second one in 1840s). However, his son Samuel White Logan (1806–1852) moved to St. Charles Parish, New Orleans in 1820, and there in 1830 married Pauline Decomine Dauterive, descendant of French settlers.

George William Logan (1801-1876) m. Ann Glover lived all their lives in Charleston, but several of their children ended up in Louisiana. Their grandson, Samuel Logan, Jr. (1876–1918) was another of the many doctors in this family, practiced in New Orleans.

Samuel White Logan ca. 1850. Courtesy of Stephanie Logan Falls.

Samuel White Logan (1806–1852) m. Pauline Dauterive.  (see above). This is Stephanie Logan Falls’ branch.

Thomas Muldrop Logan (1808–1876) m. Susan William Ann Richardson in 1827; moved to Sacramento California between 1843 (after all the children were born) and 1850.

Daniel Polk Logan (1812–1884) m. Martha Eliza Burton. Daniel was born in Charleston and Martha in Alabama, but the place of marriage is not known. By 1860 he and his family were in New Orleans.

(3) Descendants of John Logan ( 1729– ) m. Elizabeth Crook:

Joshua Lockwood Logan (1830–1886) m. Martha Julia Reaves in De Soto, Louisiana (1860) and died there. He was the first in this line to move to Louisiana from South Carolina. De Soto is just south of Shreveport, LA.


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Page created by Christopher S. Lobban, posted 19 Oct. 2019, last updated 9 Feb 2023.