I have started incorporating the conclusions about the Highland Lobans, although the full essay is still underway while we wait for the haplogroup determination. In short, they became Logans and are in Limb 3 of the Logan DNA Project. I suspect there are about the same number of living descendants as there are for the Lowland Loban/Lobban haplotype, with as much structure in the deep DNA tree, but it will be difficult to find them among the many other Logans. When we have a haplogroup, we hope to have a testable marker so that screening would then be cheap and easy.
Added The Attraction of Emigration, by Ross Murray, pages 24–25 from his 2012 book, Of Greater Worth than Gold: The history and legacy of Isabella Murray.
Monday, April 6 is Tartan Day. If you’ve got it, flaunt it! – But just at home this year! Sew a mask with it?
Colorized old photos. For those under orders to stay at home due to covid-19, MyHeritage is offering free colorizing of your photos. You have to be a user of MyHeritage, but you do not need to have a current subscription. I ran a few images through to see how it looked, and I think it’s not bad for the usually subdued or dark colors in old photos. I’ve posted the selection here, and if you want something else to occupy your confinement, find the original b/w images on this website and learn who these people are. No reward except your own satisfaction.
We have established that the Marnoch Lobbans are ancestral to the Rothiemay Area Lobbans within BY227100, which I have renamed Banffshire Lobbans. The Rothiemay Area Lobbans are now defined by haplogroup FT14993. The revised tree and notes about the structure within both Banffshire Lobbans and Moray Lobbans is posted under the Y-DNA update, March 2020, but I have also incorporated them in the Status Report, to bring it up to date. Pages on Rothiemay Area Lobbans and Marnoch Area Lobbans have been updated.
I have posted the mapped family tree for the Lobbans and Lobans of Glass, with notes on the branches. This completes the analysis of the major branches within the four haplogroups. Navigate to them using the Genealogies tab or the list below. I have solved the problem of uploading the large files and all the major trees are now available. Most are big pages that will still need downloading for further magnification.
Site map added to this page. Has all the submenu items shown so you can more quickly scan for what you are looking for. This should be especially helpful for the big Genealogies section.
Essay on Life and art of John Lobban added to gallery of his art.
New Y-DNA results link the Virginia Lobbans to the Urquhart branch of the Moray Lobbans. Annotated tree added to the Moray Lobbans page.
1620–2020: 400 years since the Mayflower landed in North America and William Loban (aka Willem Laban) landed in Holland.
Newspaper story about William Loban’s descendants (new).
Happy New Year to Lobbans and Lobans everywhere!
- There is a new place where Lobans and Lobbans can connect: Jess Loban started the Loban & Lobban group at LinkedIn. If you have (or get) a profile on LinkedIn please join the group at https://www.linkedin.com/groups/12134206/ He describes it as a “Family group to connect Lobans and Lobbans across the world.” It is new, so we will see how it develops, but it is not limited to Scottish Lobbans and Lobans, nor to family history.
- News article about the project in The Press & Journal. Thanks, Susy! https://www.pressandjournal.co.uk/fp/news/aberdeen/1896312/scottish-lobbans-invited-to-take-part-in-genetic-detective-work/
If you got here from there, I suggest you start with the Status Report, which summarizes what we’ve accomplished so far and gives more explanation of what we are still trying to do.
- Armistice Day/Veterans’ Day, remembering Lobban servicemen. WW1, WW2
- News story from 1879 about the first wife of John Lobban of Naracoorte, Australia.
- I have posted my analysis of the Moray Lobbans including both the Urquhart line and the US Logan Line.
- I have posted my analysis of the Labans of Tholen, our Dutch line through William Loban.
- The Pre1800Logans group is moving from Yahoo.com to Groups.io. The URL is https://groups.io/g/Pre1800Logans and if you subscribe to the Subgroup for DNA Limb 7, you will receive notifications from me about significant new additions to this website (i.e., the news items on this landing page).
Phase 1 of the Y-DNA study is now complete; we present our proof-of-concept that Y-DNA can be used to connect the Lobban lines that do not quite meet in the parish records. I summarize the progress made in the various aspects of the project over its first year (here or under the Origins and History tab) and have updated some of the pages with the latest DNA information.
- I developed a distribution map of main branches of the NE Scotland Lobbans pre-1855. Details here, and under the Frequency & Distribution menu.
- The map suggests that the Thomas Loban branch in the Miramichi, Canada, probably connects to newly recognized Moray Lobbans haplogroup FT75068 (blue on the map).
Story: James Lobban, Cameron Highlanders — eyewitness account of a battle in the Sudan, 1898.
- We have revised the NE Scotland Lobbans origin hypothesis to proposing that it was one man, probably from Flanders, possibly in the early-mid 1400s, who went to Scotland and founded the NE Scotland Lobban clan.
- We have identified the Inverness/Black Isle group in the R-L21 “Celtic” subclade of R1b, very remote from the NE Scotland Lobbans.
- Posted a first version of the All-Lobban Deep DNA Tree, showing all the relationships known to date.
April 6 is Tartan Day. Don’t be put off by the genetic disconnect between the Lobbans and the MacLennans. We were adopted as a Sept; we’re part of the Clan. So if you’ve got it, flaunt it!
A haplogroup and a patriarch for the Rothiemay Lobbans: New DNA results allow us to connect several family trees. This is a major breakthrough! Key points below. Full story here.
- There is a haplotype subgroup for the Rothiemay area Lobbans, R-BY227100.
- The haplogroup links descendants of the Knabbygates and Boginspro families.
- From paper records, the earliest known ancestor in this branch appears to be Andrew Loban, born about 1590 in the Rothiemay area.
- All the Lobbans living in Rothiemay in the late 1600s were his descendants, implying that most if not all of those living there after the gap in parish records (1710-1748) are also related.
- We are confident that the Loanend family line is part of this tree, as it has a known common ancestor with the Boginspro line; a DNA test is in progress.
- We predict that the Marnoch families are part of this haplogroup, but there is no paper evidence.
- We expect that other family trees may turn out to be part of this haplogroup.
Recently added: Summary of descendant lines; composite tree, and pdf of descendants chart available .
New Y-DNA results suggest that there are likely to be multiple Y-DNA lines within the name, so that hypothesis 1 is not supported (i.e., it is unlikely that there is just one haplogroup for all the NE Scotland Lobbans).
With permission of Scottish Provincial Press/Huntly Express, we have posted the full text of their 8 articles about the “Lawless Lobbans of Glass.”
Added a page on World War II servicemen killed (see tab above).
We have added the full text of Malcolm Lobban‘s unpublished book, The Scottish Surname LOBBAN (2008), and you can download the pdf here. We are adding excerpts from this book to appropriate places in the Genealogies section.
We have also added Alan (Lobban) Rudge‘s manuscript, A History of Lobban, which starts with a broad look at the early records and then focuses in on Rothiemay and particularly his ancestors at Knabbygates farm. You can download the pdf here.
Gordon Lobban joins us and has contributed several spreadsheets including an index of Lobbans grouped by family; census data; and a work file of births, marriages and deaths (“hatches, matches and dispatches”). These are posted under the Data tab. They are the data files that underpinned his site lobban.co.uk in the early 2000s. He repurposed that site for his business, and has now closed his business and redirected that URL to this site. So, if you got here that way and are looking for descalers rather than family history, sorry, we have to ask you to search elsewhere.
We have completed uploading the Sydney Alexander Lobban Collection of Lobban/Loban Family Trees to MyHeritage.com. These are breifly described in a Catalogue on the Collection page. We have also added a Master Index of all 15,000 people in the trees, and a separate table with the subset of the 2,500 Lobban + Loban surnames; these tables give name, birth date and place and death date and place (where known) and can be used to determine which tree has the selected individual. Moreover, Syd created a table from 1881 Census data that has each individual linked to the tree where he/she appears.
Page created by Chris S. Lobban, 4 Mar. 2019, last revised 17 July 2020.